Interview with Hathaway Jane

Welcome back to Gnostic Insights. Today’s episode is an interview with one of your fellow listeners to Gnostic Insights and the Gnostic Reformation on Substack. Her name is Hathaway Jane.

Hathaway wrote to me saying how much the Gnostic Insights episodes have meant to her. She’s also purchased and read A Simple Explanation of Absolutely Everything and A Simple Explanation of the Gnostic Gospel of the Tripartite Tractate, and she has some very kind words to say about how meaningful they have been to her. She said she’d like to talk to me on the phone and I suggested that we go ahead and do it as a public interview so that we can share her growth and her path with everyone else here.

Hathaway has studied Jungian analysis independently for many years now. For the past 15 years, she’s studied Carl Jung’s writing, particularly the Red Book and the Black Book, and then all of the other books that Jung wrote, as she says in the interview. And I find this remarkable because Jung is not easy to read, and Hathaway did this with a high school education at the time. She’s now attending university and she is in her last year of college studies. After she graduates from the university she wants to attend the Pacifica Graduate Institute in order to become a Jungian analyst. She studied Carl Jung independently through the Center for Applied Jungian Studies, which you can find on the Internet, and she’s also part of the Philemon Foundation. So let’s hear Hathaway’s journey.

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Cyd: Hey, Hathaway.

Hathaway: Yes, how are you?

Cyd: I’m just fine this morning. How are you?

Hathaway: I’m good.

Cyd: It’s so nice to hear your voice. Welcome to the program. Thank you so much for being here.

Hathaway: Oh, no problem. I think your book is incredible. I’m not kidding. I mean, I have told you in my life I lived through my ego self 100% and I definitely had different personas that I put on for my family, so-called friends, people I thought were my friends. And it’s strange because I think I told you from 16 to about 29 I was an addict. And every day I wake up and I feel so incredibly blessed, just because, seriously, I mean, I know how hard it is. I know that. I honestly I shouldn’t be here—like there were a few times that came real close to not being here. And, my life was such a crazy mess, I can’t even explain. I got sober and I still was just in something inside me. Just was like this child that—this is what I’ve always felt this way—I’ve always felt like off. I don’t know to explain it really. Like I wasn’t like the other kids. I was an only child and spent a lot of time alone, and just went through some experiences that I would never wish upon anybody.

Jung’s , in Bollingen, Switzerland
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And I made it out and I see so many people who don’t. I mean, right now our country is in the middle of an opiate crisis, which nobody talks about. And it’s just like, what is going on here? And I honestly do believe that everything that’s going on here is a spiritual matter. And so I started with Carl Jung. And I don’t know if you know a lot about Jung, but Carl Jung, his whole life—he started writing the Red Book, and this was his own personal notes and all these beautiful mandalas that he drew. And then he built himself like little—it wasn’t that little, but it’s quite big. It’s at Bollingen. They called the Little Castle. And this castle, it’s so symbolic. He built it because of his dream. Because one day Jung said to himself, I’m 40 years old. He’s like, what is this? I don’t want to go to cocktail parties. This is stupid. He’s like, I have everything I need. I have more money than I could ever want. I’m successful. I’ve known. He’s like, this isn’t life. There has to be something beyond this. And he started asking himself, do I know my soul?

And he went through this whole transformation where he literally was, like, begging his soul to speak to him. And his soul did in his dreams. Now I don’t have dreams like that. So Jung has another way of doing it, which is called active imagination. I do mine through a learnt meditation, where I go to a trance level. But, after reading the Red Book I got very involved in CAJS—which the Center for Applied Jungian Studies. And my first teacher was a man by the name of Shane Eynon. He’s a psychoanalyst. He’s incredible. Like, I was so blessed. And for the first time in my life, I was just, like, it just, it really did, it smacked me in the face. And I was like, Oh my gosh. And then I was like, Oh my gosh! Because then I thought, I am out here racking up credit card debt to buy stuff I don’t need. Like, I am living in this illusion, and that’s a very weird thing to experience.

Cyd: Now, how long after you had become sober did you discover the Jungians?

Hathaway: Probably about 10 years after I’d been sober. And, during those 10 years, I wasn’t a nice person. I judged people—the friends I hung out with. It was just like there was this narrative and nobody knew any different. And so we just all followed this narrative. And I grew up in a very small town. So all those 10 years, I always felt there has to be something more than this. Like, this can’t be life. I have to grow old talking about this kind of stuff. And doing the same thing every weekend. I mean, don’t get me wrong—if that’s what you love to do, go do it. But it just wasn’t for me.

And I picked up Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche.  And Nietzsche, he mentioned Jung and some further reading. And I was like, who’s Jung? And so, I like Jung. And I was reading about this man. And I’m like, oh, my gosh, this man thinks like I do. And I bought the Red Book, the Black Book, and every book Jung ever wrote. And that’s all of them.

Cyd: So, right off the bat, you jumped straight into Jung. Wow. Because, you didn’t go to college, right?

Hathaway: I didn’t. No, not at that time. I have three years of college now; I only have one year left. And this is why—I think you called it synchronicity. And it definitely applies at that time to your book. Because I just was like, oh, my gosh! When I read your book, I immediately called my husband and I was like, Steven, I don’t think you understand how important this book is, I said to him. And he cannot get enough of it. He is just, like, blown away.

Cyd: Well, well, that that’s really great to hear.

Hathaway: I mean really, Cyd, how? I don’t know how you did it. I mean, I feel like God went right through you and just let you write away.

Cyd: Well, I kind of think that’s how it happens because 15 or 20 years ago, when I discovered my theory of everything, which is the Simple Explanation of Absolutely Everything, that’s the secular version, that’s the sciency mathy version. And then, it was like 15 years after that, I discovered the gnostic, the Nag Hammadi, and the Tripartite Tractate. And I already had my superstructure in my mind, really firmly by that time. The Simple Explanation is a really nice frame to interpret just everything. That’s why it’s called: of Absolutely Everything. And by the way, when I wrote the Simple Explanation, I didn’t sit down to write it. Now, I don’t necessarily believe in channeling and that kind of thing, but what I sat down to write was a play based upon my dissertation, which is the trial of the California midwife. And instead of writing the California midwife play, boom, here come the principles from the Simple Explanation. I wrote the Simple Explanation in about two days, so obviously it was led by God.

Hathaway: That is all amazing. That is so amazing. And that’s when I picked up your book. I was like, you know, the Red Book is basically another version of your book. But it’s very, very difficult. Jung did this on purpose because you gotta remember back when—he was born in 1875. So back in that time, his biggest fear was being called a mystic. Yeah, I mean, it would have destroyed him. People back then had a very different mindset. And, you know, Jung’s Red Book did not come out till 2009. And when he was dying, he said, this book is not for this age. And when I die, he said don’t you dare publish it. He’s like, at least wait 20-30 years.

If somebody wouldn’t have wrote it down, I would be in such a different place. And I really do believe that life is supposed to be enjoyed, and I feel like the narrative out there is so opposite. I mean, honestly, I stopped watching TV eight years ago. And ever since I’ve been back at my mom’s, and she has that TV on. It’s like looking through 20 veils. And I’m like, oh my gosh, you can really see what and how they push it and the biases and everything. And I’m just like—that box is called the Idiot box. But I think it’s funny that it’s called tell a vision. Because it’s telling you a vision.

Cyd: Right. And it’s not a nice vision.

Hathaway: No, and a lot of it is very controlled. It’s like it’s just the same regurgitation of everything that’s always been there. I see the dumbing-down of America. And I see friends whom I have, who work themselves to near death to buy all these things that they don’t end up using. I mean, it’s about literally what neighbor’s, you know, boat’s bigger; who has a nicer car. And I’m just like, I can’t play that game. Like, there’s so much more out there.

You know, I did notice that my mom had that television on. I was like, mom, just look at what they’re like. She was like, ohh, my gosh. She’s like, I never really realized it that way. It’s just interesting. I don’t know. It’s the narrative. It really is. It’s the collective unconscious you don’t talk a lot about. You have your consciousness, and then there’s the collective unconscious. And the collective unconscious has been around since man has been around. And that’s in our DNA. Neil deGrasse Tyson—you know I love how he always says we’re all made of Stardust, but I wish he would elaborate on that. Because I think people don’t really understand or pick that up or really are able to picture it—that all are connected through energy in a very serious way. Yeah. And it’s not recognized. I mean, it is in some religions in some countries, but not in this country.

Cyd: Well, now, do you think that there is a malevolent force that is purposely enslaving people?

Hathaway: I do. Our government’s one of them.

Cyd: Everybody’s government. Government.

Hathaway: I know, I said, every government is one of them. I do believe that. Gosh, I’ve traveled a lot and I’m glad I did that when I was younger. Going to other countries and seeing how other people live was probably one of the best things I ever did. Just because, when you grow up in America, you take your piece of clay and you just get formed very easily into this mindset of this is life. And this is how you do it. And this is where you go and what you do. And I just was like, this isn’t.

My sister and I met up in Tibet, and when I was there those monks just blew my mind. It really showed me a different side of life—that there was nothing material and they were probably some of the happiest people I’ve ever met. And, you know, and it’s like they’re very isolated but fascinating. I remember one of them said to me, he’s like, you have so many superpowers that have been taken away from you. He’s like, you don’t even know how many powers you actually have. And, at the time, I was kind of like, I kind of get it. You know, I’m like, OK. And what I’m wondering, is what does he mean by that?

And then, when I met a specific group of people who… I have a very, very good teacher who has taught Eastern and Western mysteries by two Masters in the East and two Masters in the West. And there is actually kind of a playbook. And the thing that’s really hard about the Western mysteries and the Eastern mysteries is there’s kind of a belief in that community that they don’t ever find you. You find them. And if you find them then then it’s meant to be.

Cyd: Yeah, seek and ye shall find.

Hathaway: Yes, that’s a very hard belief. So like once I found my teacher, I was taught how to do Ascension prayer, which is a specific kind of prayer. And at first he doesn’t tell you why. Or he’s like here, this is what you just need to do. But now, after a year and a half, I understand fully why. But he never tells you the answers to anything because you have to find it. You have to find it for yourself, because if he tells you, then you’re, you know, it’s biased. He’s like, my experiences aren’t going to be your experiences. He’s like, so he’s like, he’s very cut and dry. Like I’ll give you, you know, the stuff to do and you do it and that’s when things really changed.

For about a year and a half ago, because I had just come out of this situation that was really—I just had a really bad experience with the people in my neighborhood. I had two pit bulls and they all hated my dogs and thought they were just these vicious dogs and they weren’t. One was a service dog for my husband, a federal service dog. And my husband has been gone and I had the both dogs myself and the neighborhood—I didn’t know had, like, a gossip little page or whatever, and they were saying some of the dogs got attacked or whatever. And I found this page and I think that’s why everybody left and right was calling Animal Control on me. And I’m like, what’s going on? And so I found this page and then it was too late. Because the guy who was the Animal Patrol officer was so persistent that he ended up telling me, if you don’t kill those dogs, I am, and he just marked them as extremely dangerous dogs. He’s like, now you have to go to court and all this stuff. And I had to move out and I was like in a situation and I had to put my dogs down.

Cyd: No! By the way, were they running wild or were they out of the yard? I mean, what? What was their claim against them?

Hathaway: No, no, no, no, no. Pitbulls. They didn’t like them. Yep. Just the breed. Period. Period. Lady’s dog got attacked in the neighborhood and some gossip started and for six months, and I have screenshots of this, that she erased it the minute I found it. Because we’re taking you all to court. The office was like, that’s not a service dog. And I showed him all the military papers. I’m, this is my husband’s service dog. I’m like, this dog has been, I think this dog is like, seriously, a $20,000 dog who’s been trained to, on command, to sit and stay in one spot. And we can walk away and for an hour he’ll be sitting there. Like, yeah. Your service dogs are trained. You can’t have a wild service dog.

Cyd: Yeah, of course.

Hathaway: They were so insistent, and this lady’s like, my dogs got attacked. And somebody in the neighborhood was like, it had to have been those pit bulls. And I found their little website. And I said, I went on there and I said, I’m so sorry you think it was my dogs. Unfortunately, that evening I was in Hutchinson, Minnesota, and I have it on the phone. And I mean that was really traumatizing.

Cyd: Oh, I’ll say.

Hathaway: I mean, our dogs are our kids.

Cyd: Well, absolutely, I love my animals so much.

Hathaway: Oh my gosh, I know.

Cyd: I love animals. My whole life, I’ve always preferred animals to people to tell you the truth, yeah.

Hathaway: I agree. Mark Twain said that, too. I remember he was like, I think I prefer my dogs to my friends. Yeah. That was a period in life where I could make a choice. I could either break down, freak out. Yeah, do all the things that I used to do, or I could sit down with my self and say, I don’t know why this is happening, but it’s happening for a reason and I don’t know why. And that’s exactly what happened.

It doesn’t excuse what they did, but I understand now. I don’t believe that there’s coincidences in life. I just don’t. I don’t believe that. You know, people are like, why does bad stuff happen? And I’m like, I don’t think bad stuff happens. I just think we look at it as bad. And we handle it that way. And we don’t ever look into the future at all. Like, why. You know? And I didn’t. I reached into my soul and I at that time I did not believe in God. I came from a Lutheran family. My grandma was very religious. But I never believed in a higher power.

And I’ll never forget, as I had to put my dogs down, one night, my heart hurt so bad. And I just said, I was like, God, please forgive me for all the things I’ve done in life. And I was like, I need to know you’re here and that you’re real. And all of a sudden I saw God and the most overwhelming feeling of love and light and warmth filled my body. This is an experience I will never forget. And I saw God. And I didn’t see him like standing there. It wasn’t like my eyes were seeing, but I could see in my mind this presence, and it was thick. And it was so warm. And it was so loving. And it was just pure love. And at that very moment my entire life changed drastically. I was already into Jung. I had already worked on myself. But that was real. That was so real. I mean, I remember I called my mom and my dad the next day, and my dad hadn’t passed away yet. And I was like, Dad, I saw God. I’m like, Dad, I said. I’m like, Dad, Dad, Dad! And my dad was, like, so happy because he’s—my whole life I always would joke around. I’d be, like, some hippie smoking somewhere wrote the Bible. You know, I was like, who knows who wrote that thing, you know? And I used to joke around about it, sarcastic with my dad. And he was like, you really don’t believe? And I was like, no. And I didn’t. I wanted to. It’s just I felt like my life had had so much tragedy in it and so much chaos.

And then I realized, yeah, it did. But all of that needed to happen in order for me to be able to know God on a personal level. Or Christ. I don’t really have like names that I put to them. I know some people have a really big problem with the word God because they’ve had bad experiences. So I will tell people sometimes, so like they’re, I don’t know if I can go there. And I’ll be like, don’t go there. I’m like, think of something that has loved you unconditionally, even it’s with a pet, which most people end up picking. And I say to them, now, take that pet’s name and make a little name for that pet. And just for now, we’ll call that your star word. And take your star word and that’s God. And pray to that because you are praying to God. He doesn’t have to have the name God. And I found out that that really helps a lot of people because like I said, the word God has been just shoved into so many different areas and…

Cyd: Well the definition of God—it’s memes. Those are human memes. Those aren’t God. And so people have negative associations to all of these memes that they’ve been taught is God. But it’s not God. So it’s just fine to peel off that label and just be open to the transcendent, to the highest. I was talking to a lady yesterday and she calls it the Source.

Hathaway: Yeah. And a lot of people I know call it the Source. So I did. And my name was Zoabi because my dog’s names were Zoe and Abi.

Cyd: Your dog’s name was Zoe?

Hathaway: Zoe. Yeah. Zoe. It’s Zoe and Abi. Yeah.

Cyd: One of my dog’s names is Zoe!

Hathaway: Are you kidding me? Oh my gosh. Do you know in Hebrew that means river?

Cyd: I think it means life.

Hathaway: It’s that river, like life, totally. The running river of life.

Cyd: Yes, and now that we’re Gnostic, it’s the river of life that’s flowing down from the Source and through the Fullness and into us.

Hathaway: That is so crazy that our dogs have the same name, and Abi means the Father like, you know, in Hebrew it’s, you know, Abraham. Father like. So our dogs have the same name. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. And when I do talk to people and people are like, well, I don’t get it; explain Jung to me. And I’m like, you got 10 hours? You know, it’s hard. It’s hard sometimes when people ask me, what are you doing? Like, what are you going to school for? And when I tell them I’m going to school to be a Jungian analyst. So, like, what is that? And I’m like, well, you know what therapy is right? And they’re like, yeah. And I’m like, well, it’s like that. But it’s totally not that. I mean, it’s a commitment. It’s a four year commitment.

When you have had trauma in your life, it messes with everything. It messes down to your cells. Down to the atoms in your body, all the way to the way you think and function and see life. And I see so many people who have been so traumatized that most of them either drink themselves out of it or they use some kind of substance. They got some kind of niche that just belongs to them. Anything to not feel that or think about it, or even address it. And I think we really believe in this country that a lot of people have suffered a lot of trauma and it’s not spoken about.

Cyd: Well, you know, it’s not only the trauma of your family or your relationships that you know in life. It’s the trauma of this fake culture that we were talking about. This uh, well, I don’t know what to call it other than this fake culture that we’re being programmed into and it’s trying to…

Hathaway: Keeping up with the Jones thing.

Cyd: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it’s jamming a square peg into our round holes. And it that is not what it’s meant to be and that’s why people are so unhappy, because you can’t replace the spirit with materialism.

Hathaway: No, no. I know people who are millionaires and they’re miserable. And I know people are like, ohh, if I had money. I’m like, no, it wouldn’t be better. You would have the same problems. Like, that doesn’t solve anything, you know?

And I remember—so, growing up, I was huge into hip hop and rap and my sister worked for BMG in Chicago at the time. And Notorious BIG had just been killed. And I’ll never forget that era. And then into the years 2006, especially 2006. In the African American community, there was so much chaos going on and there was so much being pushed. And it was done by the record companies and they were like, hey, if you’re not gangster rapping, we don’t wanna hear about.

For real, they were like, I mean, cause when rap first came out, there was a lot of like tribal, and Quest is very positive rap. But literally, they had a huge executive meeting with like five of the biggest labels and they were like, look, you weren’t gangster rapping. We don’t want to hear it.

Cyd: Oh, wow. So let’s just spread negativity as far and wide as we can.

Hathaway: Yeah, let’s push, you know, gangs and bloods and crypts. And, you know, because I hung out with a lot of those people were my friends, I watched it. And now I can look and be like, oh my gosh. To witness that. To witness how something so small, how something as beautiful as poetry, right? And for executives to take it and literally say, well, it better be gangster, you know, it better be hard. Or we’re just gonna ignore you. And for a long time, it was that way. I want to say until Kanye West came out. Leave it to Kanye to bridge more.

Cyd: Yeah, Kanye, right. And of course, by the way, the same thing is happening, you don’t watch television. I happen to watch too much television, but the streaming services—that they are becoming more and more perverse with, you know, pretty much with every show that they issue. It’s just going down and down and down. It’s awful.

Hathaway: See, that’s why I just can’t watch. Like, seriously, I can’t watch it. Like, my mom watches the soap opera. I mean, I get it. She likes it. Whatever. But I’m just like, yeah, Mom, you do know that this is, like, the farthest thing from reality, right? She’s like, yes, I do. But I even see it, you know, sometimes when I do see the TV, if I’m at somebody’s house and like a politician is on, I just am aghast at like, what? The things that come out of their mouths cause I’m, like, oh my gosh. I’m like, really? I just, I don’t know.

Cyd: Well, politicians are special class of human. I mean, they have to be power driven. Obviously they’re power driven and so that’s just that’s the baseline of that. It’s all ego. Hey, so…

Hathaway. Yeah, all ego.

Cyd: You were talking about in the first part of your life, you were driven by ego, and now I imagine the inverse of that, just that you’re being driven by or seeking or being guided by, let’s say, love and compassion and spirit.

Hathaway: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every day, I mean, I wake up every day and I never… you know, Jung said something that resonated with me. And I’ll never forget it when I read it and this was like five years ago. He was like, the moment a patient walks in the door, if I have any judgment, I might as well tell them to walk out and go away. And I’m like, oh, my God, he’s right. And, you know, humans judge in three seconds. That’s how long we take to judge somebody. It just blows your mind—in three seconds, like psychologically, that’s how quickly we judge someone. So I’ve had to train my brain. And it’s strange. But, when I meet people. I don’t take that approach. And I can’t take it because I’ve trained myself out of it. So it doesn’t matter what you look like or where you come from. That’s not it. It’s your soul that I care about.

Cyd: Yeah, but do  you judge their soul? I mean, do you think, ohh they’re spiritual or ohh, they’re lost in ego. I mean, is that a form of judgment?

Hathaway: No, because I don’t know. Honestly. In reality, unless I can sit down with that person and get to know them, I don’t know if that’s just their persona—one one of their personas they’re putting it on, and deep inside, they’re doing it for their family or they’re doing it to impress friends. But deep inside, you know, I’m miserable and I pray to God every day for something and stuff. Like, I just, I can’t judge people. I just can’t do it. It’s really hard for me to. I mean, even when I see somebody is doing something that is not very nice. The first thing that’s going through my head is, what happened to them to make them want to project that onto others?

Cyd: Yeah, that’s very wonderful reaction. I need to get to that place. I’m very judgmental in a negative way. And it’s not a good thing. I am loving. I want to be loving, and when I know the person, I fully love them. But strangers—boom, boom, boom–it just, you know, rubs me the wrong way.

Hathaway: And it’s not an easy thing to do. I mean, when I first started and I was like, really like, I cannot do what I am meant to do if I have that mindset of mind. And so, you know, when somebody’s super rude to you, you want it like this right away. It’s like it’s automatic.

Cyd: It’s like, right. It’s boom right back at him.

Hathaeway: Yeah, it’s like, pow! right back. It’s like that fight or flight thing. And it’s like, I had to literally shut that down and just be like, hey, I know you maybe think I cut you off, and if I did, I am so sorry. I hope you have a great day. And I’m sorry that you’re angry. And I really wish you the best.

And I’ve had literally people break down crying, because nobody’s ever been nice to them. It’s not always easy, but I know that. I feel like if God was watching me, He’s like, you already know what to do. So I’m like, OK, got it.

Cyd: Well, that’s wonderful.

Hathaway: Yeah. So that’s a little bit of my story.

Cyd: Oh, I’m so glad to have talked with you, Hathaway, and that you’ve talked with us. I think that what you’re sharing with us today is going to be so helpful to many people. Can you give anyone a first step or anything they should do or a website they should visit or anything like this?

Hathaway: They should definitely get your book and I tell everybody to get the Red Book. And you better get a dictionary.

Cyd: For the Red Book, but not for my books, right? My book is simple.

Hathaway: Yep. Nope, the Red Book. Yeah, because Jung was a scholar and he wrote in his time in the way they wrote. Which is, yeah, very confusing. But even if you don’t do the Red Book, you know, just plenty of YouTube channels. I mean, in South America and in South Korea, Jung is huge. I mean, there’s a K-pop band who just wrote a record about him. And it’s kind of interesting because nobody knew who Jung was like 10 years ago. And I’ve got to watch this, like, huge wave and people saying, oh, Carl Jung, I know who you’re talking about. And I’m like, really?

Cyd: Wow. That’s interesting.

Hathaway: Yeah, I’ve got to see that, which is really cool. And I’ve seen it in people. I’ve seen it and definitely in different cultures. I mean, the K-pop thing just shocked me. Yeah. Like, what? Like these teenagers are making a record about individuation and finding their souls.

Cyd: So you think my book, A Simple Explanation of the Gnostic Gospel, would be helpful?

Hathaway: Ohh gosh, Cyd. When I read your book, I was just ecstatic. My husband said, he’s like, I’ve never seen anybody write so just blunt and honestly. And yet, so clearly. And yet, I do have to go back and read each chapter, he’s like, because I’m not used to the narrative. And I’m like, exactly. I do, Cyd, I think I think your book is for the ages to come. And the ages here.

Cyd: That’s nice. OK, Gee—a perfect note to end on.

Well, that’s our interview with Hathaway Jane. Here’s a postscript to the interview that Hathaway mailed me today. She says,

“After speaking with you, I told my teacher that I appreciated everything he had taught me, but I know it’s time to move on. Most of the teaching was directions on ascending to the other realms, but I don’t feel that is my path. I cannot explain it and I don’t know if I ever will, but your book changed my thought process. I told you of the experience of the process Jung wrote about and how it’s close to your book, just very long and extremely difficult to read. I read your book at least a few times a week and I have to study it in order to soak in everything.

“I told you about my experience of feeling and seeing God when I read your book. It feels like I’m going over knowledge I used to know and forgotten, but I feel a fraction of the same overwhelming love I felt that night. I’m not sure what is next, but I hope we remain friends and get your book into more hands. I know so many people who are lost and I feel like they can’t get basic answers or they have to pay some guru or hope they discover a cult-like setting by chance. I know that usually leads to more confusion. I’m sure I will have more questions. All I know is that the more I read and listen to the gnostic gospel, your book and your podcast, the more synchronicities become clear. Much love, Hathaway.

And that’s exactly it. I’ve always said that A Simple Explanation is a paradigm-shifting theory of everything, because it has a whole different way of looking at the way the physics and chemistry and everything goes together. And this Simple Explanation of the Gnostic Gospel is also paradigm shifting of conventional Christianity. But I believe in a better way. It helps us to know the Father better and deeper. It helps us to understand the difference between the Son, the Christ, and Jesus, and they’re all important, and they’re all glorious. So let’s give more glory to God. That’s the goal here.

If any of you listeners would like to have a discussion with me that we would then possibly broadcast for other people’s edification, I think it’s important to share our gnostic journeys with each other, because everyone comes to gnosis in their own way and through their own insights. So if you feel as though you have something that you’d like to share with others, please write to me using the Comments form here at Gnostic Insights. Or you can leave a comment directly at the Substack Gnostic Reformation page.

God bless us all, onward and upward.

My book, A Simple Explanation of the Gnostic Gospel of the Tripartite Tractate, is still available now as an advance, black and white edition. However, the good news is that the color edition is finally out of pre-publication and at the printers. So copies will be available very soon, if you want to wait for the color edition.

And, on another note, I found an illustrator for the children’s gnostic gospel book I’ve most recently written. She is a terrific artist and a self-identified gnostic for many years, so she really knows what she’s doing. I’ll be sure to let you know as soon as it is finished.

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